Archives, Ms. Netiquette|June 3, 2011 2:07 PM

Amazing! My Mini Was “Stolen!”

Dear Ms Nettie:

I am an avid Amazing Mini show competitor and never miss a chance to compete in them.

I’m quite blessed to have many wins under my belt and enjoy the fun of chatting with others who are also trying to win a coveted spot in the “Amazing Mini” section of the Mini Mall. It’s a bonus if I do win a spot, but if not, I had the fun of chatting with many I consider friends and others that hopefully will be soon!

Sadly I have had some bad experiences of people “borrowing” my Mini and discovering later that they’d won. In one case the lady was in my room and commented on my Mini being good. I peeked at hers and said I loved hers too. She left the room suddenly and when the winning Minis were posted I saw MY EXACT MINI with her name under it.

I was shocked and hurt and at the next Mini show I asked her why would she take my idea and go to the first room the judge came in. She said “I like to win and I saw it was a winner anyway… it’s only a Mini. No big deal.”

I didn’t say anything but promptly blocked her from seeing my Mini and if she was in the same room I was I left. Now I put my Mini on at the last minute before a judge comes in.

Lesson learned.

Many years have passed and I have learned that great minds do think alike at times… I’ve changed my Mini when I saw someone else in the room was going for the same general idea. They did NOT copy nor did I. We just thought along the same lines.

The reason I’m writing today is I recently had a bad experience…

I won with an old Mini I had kept in my Mini closet, thrilled my old Mini was picked until I received a letter from someone I didn’t know. They stated they were new to Mini shows and had won the first 2 times they entered.

They said that when they went to check the winning Minis “I was very surprised to see my Mini as a winner with someone else’s name on it. At this point I’m very turned off from entering anymore contests because of this. I would rather not win than have somebody feel the way I did this afternoon.” I promptly wrote back saying I had no idea she had won with the Mini I used and told her I didn’t copy it nor see it in the winners. She wrote back that I must have misunderstood her. She didn’t WIN with the Mini… she only ENTERED it. Also she said “so if they liked yours, and mine was the same, why I didn’t win is a puzzle to me… it’s not that important anymore.”

I was shocked to receive a letter like this. Am I a MIND READER now and can visually SEE others Minis to make ones like theirs? As far as I know we were not in the same room that day so it would take mind reading on my part to know what her Mini was wearing.

She had stated she was not competing anymore because she didn’t want anyone else to feel bad like she did… so was the point of her letter TO MAKE ME FEEL BAD? Because it sure made me feel sick inside then angry. I wanted to respond again but don’t want further contact with someone who tries to rain on my day. She had said it wasn’t important to her anymore… if that was the case WHY DID she write me?

My question to this long letter (hope you got a strong cuppa btw) is was it bad manners for her to try to rain on my parade by sending the letter or am I seeing it wrong?

Just call me,

Mind Reading Mini Maker

Dear Mind Reader,

Well, I did have to add another bag to the already strong cup to delve into your letter!

Your experience is, alas, not entirely unique. We’ve heard many complaints from players regarding “stolen” Minis since we began hosting the Amazing Mini events. However, the two situations you described even caused your hardened Etiquette columnist to raise her eyebrows! What nerve the first woman had in order to justify herself by saying “I like to win and I saw it was a winner anyway.”

Before I go on, I must stop and applaud your clear-headedness on these matters and your ability to deal with them in an adult way. Good job!

These events are supposed to be fun, and being featured in the Amazing Mini section of the What’s Hot page in the Mini Mall is definitely a nice little shot in the arm, but it’s not worth stealing someone’s Mini over! That’s just bad manners, and I’m so sorry you had your parade rained upon by her bad behavior. Of course, when something like that happens, you almost have to laugh at how socially inept some people are. Ultimately, however, her behavior is a reflection on how she feels about her own world. I imagine she has few true friends and people don’t throw a lot of trust her way.

On to the situation you wrote about. Obviously, her approach was ill-mannered. While I do understand she may be new to these events and has not yet learned that sometimes the duplicate Mini scenario can occur innocently, accusing you of stealing hers without first trying to fully understand what happened was in poor form.

It’s understandable that she might be upset by the situation. In her eyes, her Mini was her own and to see it show up under someone else’s name obviously upset her. However, we all do ourselves a huge favor by cooling our jets before we shoot off a nasty e-mail. It would have been better for her to cool down, and then if she still felt the need to deal with the situation, she could have delicately crafted a more inquisitive than accusatory message. Something like: “Hello, congratulations on your win! It looks like we both entered the same Mini this week! What a coincidence. What made you think of yours?” would be friendly enough to elicit an equally friendly reply allowing you to explaining yourself, and would not only likely satisfy her curiosity, but open up a door for future friendliness.

But, she chose to accuse first and play the “pity” card, which both rained on your parade, and didn’t do much for her reputation. If, in the future, you should experience a similar situation, rather than explain or defend yourself, you might say something like “Welcome to the world of the Amazing Mini shows! Congrats on your first couple of ‘wins’. Sometimes players do end up with very similar Minis on the same day, and it looks like that’s what happened with us. I hope that you give the Amazing Mini shows another try, as they are a lot of fun!”

This will hopefully cause her to realize that these things do happen on occasion and she might (*might* being the key word) make her realize how petty she’d been to make the accusation in the first place.

 

Ms. Netiquette,

This is my first time at writing you, but to me when I heard a friend crying to me about this problem that she had I knew it was time.

My friend “Louielaleprechaun” [name changed for privacy] was playing Everyone Wins Bingo last night, and while she was playing all of a sudden someone entered the room using her name started talking very rude on the chat box.

Now my question is:

How in the world can someone jump in and using her name start chatting disruptively?

She was so embarrassed she left the room. She has been a member since 2005 with Pogo. We would really appreciate your help.

Please let me know what can happen in a situation like this.

Looking Out for a Friend

Dear Looking Out,

You are a kind friend! What this abuser did was simply recreate the same screen name, only instead of using a lowercase “L” in “leprechaun”, he or she used an uppercase “i”, and unfortunately it looks exactly the same on Pogo. So, while it looked like she was saying it, it was actually a completely different account.

The best thing she could have done in that situation was to file an abuse report for “spoofing”. However, she also did the right thing by not giving the abuser any attention whatsoever. She essentially took all the joy out of the effort, and while she may have been upset behind her screen, the abuser is left empty in his or her efforts. Kudos to her for not playing into the scheme!

In some cases of severe stalking or harassment, players with a screen name that has several lowercase “L”s or uppercase “i”s, will be wise to go ahead and create their own “spoof” accounts so that this trick cannot happen again. In the case of “Louielaleprechaun”, it would mean creating: Louieialeprechaun, Louieiaieprechaun, and Louielaieprechaun. It’s a bit of a drag to have to do that, but it only takes a few minutes and it does protect your identity from being spoofed.

Meanwhile, I’ve taken the liberty of sending the spoofed name to our Customer Support department so that they may take appropriate action.

 

Dear Nettie,

This letter is regarding your May 20, 2011 response to the lucky octogenarian in Canasta. This player was accused of using a cheat program to garner many red 3s, wild cards or multiple Canastas. While your advice for the most part was sound, I believe you were off the mark just a tad on one point. You advised this player to “deny the accusation once” and then move on.

I take issue with having to deny anything for which I’m falsely accused. Why should he/she have to justify their actions simply to appease the doubts of a suspicious, possibly envious player?

I wholeheartedly agree that you were right in telling them to just “roll their eyes” and “move on”….but to say anything in their own defense, in my opinion, only serves to empower this accuser by causing the honest player to have to explain him/herself, only drawing attention to the ridiculous matter. After all, that’s what this rude person wants, so why even give them that much?

Sincerely,

Won’t Deny or Justify

Dear Won’t Deny or Justify,

I’ve given this a lot of thought over the years, and I stand by my advice, and I’ll explain why. If I accuse you of cheating in a game room and you say nothing, I may assume that your silence means that you are, in fact, cheating, or that you are using some sort of automatic playing program. Your denial does two things: it let’s me know that you’re an actual person and that you do deny my accusation.

Furthermore, if others are present, you’re letting them know the same.

Finally, a polite denial gives the accusing player the opportunity to step back and apologize for the accusation in the first place. Sometimes even nice people get so emotionally wrapped up in the outcome of a game that they say things that they normally wouldn’t. While it’s rare, on occasion someone will recognize they’re own poor behavior and will attempt to make up for it.

So, in the interest of clearing one’s good name and giving the accuser an opportunity to redeem his or herself, I do think a single message such as “I’m sorry you lost, but I don’t cheat – I just play the game well” is the polite way to respond to an accusation.

 

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